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HellsBells

Sat Apr 18 2009, 01:02am

Registered Member #171

Joined: Sun Apr 08 2007, 11:31am
Posts: 342

With the comments that have been thrown around re COD4/5 in regards to mods and vanilla gametypes and the impending closing of our Cod Server. I believe that clarification should be presented into what is a MOD.

Firstly I sent a PM to the Author of the ACE Mod to ask a simple question.

"What are the Advantages and Disadvantages of a Mod".

The Reply

With an unmodded game you can not switch on or off all the features you want or not want.its as simple as that.

All the features of the mod can be turned on or off....wether its globally (for all maps) or per map or gametype...you can do anything you want

A mod does not break the paramaters of the game...it extends them...make the game more and more admin and player friendly

There is no doubt that by adding features or any other additions the game load gets bigger.....the more that is going on on a map the more the server has to work (hardware wise) so yes...depending on the machine it can cause additional lag.....thats with every mod...no mod is excluded or for that fact neither is a stock game.

Custom maps is about the same story, depending on how well the map is made a custom map..heck even a stock map can cause extra lag.....if a mapper doesnt use brushes, collisions, portalling correctly then there will be area's of the map....in worst case..the whole map....that lags terribly.

5 - 10 minutes of downloading.....thats a blast from the past....if you use http redirect you download the ACE Mod in matter of seconds. (depending on how fast your http-redirect can upload..and a client can download)

Custom maps download time..i havent encountered a map yet that cant be downloaded in less then a minute and a half (again depending on size of the map , download and upload speed of client and redirect) (LD Speed is max's at about 700k)

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There you have it. You can make your own decision, but I have added a few comments from members and others on MODS.

towle

Hey LD guys..

I had a ball last night with some of you on that new map Eerie !! I have never played on that before.. It was fantastic and I am singing it's praises in our forums on TOG COD4 .. I have uploaded some screenshots for them to look at .. When is this map on the rotation? Is it on every night and at what time/ part of the map rotation is it ? I hope some more TOG members come on over to enjoy some creepy moments. The sound effects are really spooky !! It's very "F.E.A.R" like as far as creep factor is concerned.. Thanks for the hosting of this map . I will be coming back on a frequent basis .. hopefully with some more TOG ppl !!

Towle
I just had a game on your server and I enjoyed it very much. It was CTF as well which is different mod of play I don't see on the normal COD4 servers. It was the oil rig map /platform with the helicopter pads. I actually shot a few of you LD players too .. That was fun ! It's a great map to play on

glw174
Awesome job Hells

Gazza56

yes night mode is awwesome !! had a ball with hells on it last night !! well done Hells for the work put in !! god help us when skippy gets in there with his knife tho !!!

Gazza56

havnt played BF2 for about a year so not worried ! I only play COD and love both COD4and mods and COD5
CORDOVER

as for hells's server. i dont want to be shitsturing BUT. it is run well. it has a full rotation which i like. it is well run. admin do their job efficently. i dont mind playing on that server. the only problem that i have with it is that sometimes it can get annoying with people comming in from outside the clan, in groups. and dominating lol.
but thats a natural factor. its going to happen.

i do enjoy playing the mods. but i also enjoy a good old fassioned game of hardcore TDM. and im sorry but i dont think ill be playing till i can.
ive gone back to CounterStrike. because although its full of hackers. you can still have a good fair and fun round.

We just have to remember that every game has it's problems whether it's getting killed by a better player once to often or that the map didn't download correctly.
(which has shown to be the users system and not the map). Because 99% of all new maps are tested by me prior to releasing it

As far as the lag problems are concerned I am discussing these problems with our server host.

I for one do not want the COD4/5 server to close as I do enjoy the game play. Some input from members about the types of game mode maps setups etc they would like to see.. NOT LOVE IT TODAY, HATE IT TOMORROW ATTITUDE.
You can't have it both ways, a lot of time and effort goes into ensuring the Servers are interesting and enjoyable for all.

Cheers

Hells:)

Gazza56

Sun Apr 19 2009, 02:54am

Registered Member #269

Joined: Wed Dec 26 2007, 09:05am
Posts: 106

As you have quoted me i will respond to your post ! the quote you put up was a long time ago and at the time i did enjoy the mods . But as time has gone on i am sooooooooooo over having to update and update every time i want to go on and play COD ! the way its been going i am almost the point of having to buy a new hardrive just to keep your mod files ! Thats not on ! just want to play COD 4 or 5 untampered with ! am so over mods . yes they were fun at the start but no longer , they are just a pain to my gaming time and hardly anyone goes into the server to play except our members and yet when its on Vanilla hardcore we have kick ppl to get our members in ! so id say the generall gaming community doesnt like mods anymore either and if we want new members to join we need to give ppl a game the enjoy playing and not here heres some more tweaks and maps etc for you to download ! we are here to play a game not download ! sorry hells is just how i feel !

Cordover

Sun Apr 19 2009, 03:37am

Registered Member #302

Joined: Tue Mar 04 2008, 05:57am
Posts: 26

look guys,
im going to have to say im sick of all this bs thats going on within the clan,
i hardly play anymore and im begining to think it would be easier if i just leave the clan.

my quote on liking the mods,
it would be nice if you put my whole quote not just the bits that would back what your trying to say.
there was more to that quote than what you put there.

and maybe if your bringing them up as reference's then you should have time stamps and date posted.
thats just what you do when your putting up references.

im not going to post anything else on this topic.
im over it.
im done.

get back to me when all this is resolved and ill see where im at and see if i wanna keep playing with you guys.

damijen

Sun Apr 19 2009, 04:12am

Clan Founder and Head Admin

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Joined: Mon Aug 07 2006, 04:02am
Posts: 517

LOL hells we are trying to keep members in this clan not upset them.

Fitterstrack

Sun Apr 19 2009, 04:47am

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Actually Dami - I think it's ok for people to get it off their chest - After All thats whats Forums are about.
Everyday we make decsions in life what to remember / quote from..
I think Hells is entitled as much as anyone is to make comment about comments.

Dave

damijen

Sun Apr 19 2009, 10:27pm

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Fitterstrack wrote ...

I think Hells is entitled as much as anyone is to make comment about comments.

Dave

Thats all i've done or maybe im not allowed to comment,cause when i read such dribble somtimes i just cant help myself.

damijen

Sun Apr 19 2009, 10:32pm

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Joined: Mon Aug 07 2006, 04:02am
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HellsBells wrote ...

With an unmodded game you can not switch on or off all the features you want or not want.its as simple as that.

All the features of the mod can be turned on or off....wether its globally (for all maps) or per map or gametype...you can do anything you want

A mod does not break the paramaters of the game...it extends them...make the game more and more admin and player friendly

Bullshit you change most setting's for the original game.....

damijen

Sun Apr 19 2009, 10:42pm

Clan Founder and Head Admin

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Joined: Mon Aug 07 2006, 04:02am
Posts: 517

HellsBells wrote ...

5 - 10 minutes of downloading.....thats a blast from the past....if you use http redirect you download the ACE Mod in matter of seconds. (depending on how fast your http-redirect can upload..and a client can download)

Custom maps download time..i havent encountered a map yet that cant be downloaded in less then a minute and a half (again depending on size of the map , download and upload speed of client and redirect) (LD Speed is max's at about 700k)

Wildcard[/color]

5-10 mins is the norm for downloading from the Http.If you would listen to the members,not everyone has super fast download speeds.

800k speeds are only available to player who live in NSW,i my self only get 200-300k(understand?)
Members also have download limits wich is also another problem that has been adressed to me.

HellsBells

Sun Apr 19 2009, 11:17pm

Registered Member #171

Joined: Sun Apr 08 2007, 11:31am
Posts: 342

damijen wrote ...

Bullshit you change most setting's for the original game.....

The statement you should make is " You can change most of the setting"

eg: American weapons for American Forces
Russian Weapons for Russion Forces Etc not an open weapons cache making game more
realistic.

HellsBells

Sun Apr 19 2009, 11:37pm

Registered Member #171

Joined: Sun Apr 08 2007, 11:31am
Posts: 342

damijen wrote ...

Maybe those that have download problems should voice them to me and not you since I am available everyday. Can and have changed game/mod/map to suit members individual needs. I put enough information on the forum for members to make comments/requests etc.

Here is a calculation for downloads as a guide for a 35MB file

256kbps (Cable/DSL) 18 minutes and 40 seconds
386kbps (Cable/DSL) 12 minutes and 22 seconds
512kbps (Cable/DSL) 9 minutes and 20 seconds
640kbps (Cable/DSL) 7 minutes and 28 seconds
768kbps (Cable/DSL) 6 minutes and 13 seconds
T1, DS1 line (1.544 Mbps) 3 minutes and 1 seconds

Its a guide only.

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